eBay LIVE Is Facing A CRITICAL Test! | S08E03

On todays podcast we are talking about eBay LIVE and how it could live or die based on what happens next...

I'm joined by the infamous "Bargain Bell" for this podcast.

Plus the usual honest interactive reseller chat you've become accustomed to!

My YouTube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@CarBoot_Chris?sub_confirmation=1

My Website - http://www.carbootchris.com

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:03

Welcome everybody. Today on the podcast, we're talking eBay Live and what could become a critical decision for the platform. Because honestly, eBay Live could live or die based on what happens next. My name's Chris, aka Carboot Chris, and I'm a full-time UK online reseller. I operate mainly on eBay, but also on vintage and whatnot. I'm bringing a regular podcast all about reselling with a bit of fun thrown in too. Hopefully to keep you company to entertain you and maybe a little bit of education. Who knows? Welcome to the Everything Reselling Podcast. Hey everybody, welcome back. Bloody hell, it's hot, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 0:58

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 0:59

It's hot. Are we joining in the group? Everyone else is going, yeah, it's too hot.

SPEAKER_03 1:04

This is tropical weather, isn't it? I think there's gremlins in the computer as well tonight, as well. I think the heat's got to it. I hope you're all good, everybody. Hope you've had a good bank holiday weekend. Well do you want to chip in at this point? I'm Carboot Chris. I'm a full-time reseller, buy and sell stuff, flip it online for a profit. Today we've got Bargain Bell with us, my esteemed wife.

SPEAKER_01 1:37

What does that mean?

SPEAKER_03 1:38

That means you're amazing.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

Oh, do you like me today?

SPEAKER_03 1:44

A little bit.

SPEAKER_02 1:46

Hi.

SPEAKER_03 1:47

Do you want to introduce yourself and say hello, especially to everybody who listens?

SPEAKER_02 1:51

Yeah. To everybody who listens. As Christopher said, my name is Bargan Bell, aka Bell Hayden. The better half of the team. I pretty much help out just on the Monday Night Lives, and now and again with a little bit of his reselling. Other than that, I have what we call a real job. So yeah. And for all those listening, Chris is just showing his t-shirt lines.

SPEAKER_03 2:23

Yeah, because Fluffy the Muffin just said for audio only, Chris is sunburnt. Yeah, I am. I am. I was out today at the boot sale this morning and I did get a little bit burnt on my legs. And I'm yeah, look at that. Look how white that is.

SPEAKER_02 2:37

Being smart and it being the first sunshine that you've really got all year, you went out with no sun cream on, didn't you?

SPEAKER_03 2:43

I did, yeah. Naughty me.

SPEAKER_02 2:45

Yeah. So no one to blame but yourself.

SPEAKER_03 2:48

I know, I know. We're gonna say hello to as many people as possible in the chat. So get your get your chat going. If you'd like to have a shout out from Belle, say hello in the chat. If you're listening, please one day just come over and join us on a Monday night here on YouTube and join in with the chat. Even just if it's just for once, just one time, come and join us and say hello in the chat.

SPEAKER_02 3:11

I'd be very surprised if people just listen and haven't like to have a look to see. If nothing else, just what do we look like to put a face to a voice?

SPEAKER_03 3:19

Oh, they don't want to see that.

SPEAKER_02 3:21

Well, I don't know actually, because my northern drolling tones can't sound great on a podcast. You surely as long as you can put a face to it, it's gonna make it a little bit easier.

SPEAKER_03 3:33

True. No, that is probably true. That is probably true. Okay, Belle's gonna say hello to as many people in the chat as possible in the one allotted minute, and it starts now.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

Uh we have Kevin Hawthorne, Joe John, eBay's over. Oof, uh dramatic Lynn Lynn, Deborah Sardine, uh Jamie D, Helen Graham, Sharon Island, Karen Evans, Rosie Marsden, Lisa, Geordie Weesella, Emsden, UK, nothing major. Fluffy the Muffin, uh, Cloud9 a lotman, Paul Hillman, Lisa, Chris Tyler, Lizzie Scotty Dogs, Crafts, Sandra Parker, D D D A M P J. How do I say that? Flaw. Flaw. Um Rachel Fantastic, Al Knack, uh, Rosie Marsden, Life in the First Lay, Wee. Uh Wet Beaver Tactical, is that? The swimming bear.

SPEAKER_03 4:39

That's it.

SPEAKER_02 4:39

Alex is retro drip, and Robert Antony and Andrew Milburn.

SPEAKER_03 4:44

Oh, you did well. You did well. You got you got in quite a lot there. 75 people watching right now. Thank you everybody for joining us on a Monday evening, a lovely Monday evening as well, where you could be doing lots of other things.

SPEAKER_02 4:54

Yeah, but do you know what it is? We're British and now it's too hot to be outside.

SPEAKER_03 4:58

No, you gotta come inside, haven't you?

SPEAKER_02 5:01

We literally we have we have purposely built, or should I say, Chris, purposely built a bit of decking in the bottom of our garden, right where we have sun all the way through into the evening. And what was the first thing I did today when we went and sat on it? Stuck the brawley up. I was like, nope, give me that shade.

SPEAKER_03 5:17

If I hadn't burnt myself this morning at the boot sale, I would have been sat out in the sun this afternoon. I'd have put some cream on and sat out, but I burnt myself and I was like, just I can't sit out on it now.

SPEAKER_02 5:27

Well, just think you'll have a lovely top coat for when we go away.

SPEAKER_03 5:30

That's true, that's true. I need to give a shout out again to Ems Den.

SPEAKER_02 5:38

Because they're always worth a shout-out.

SPEAKER_03 5:41

Well, not only that, just for being beautiful people, but last week they provided the duck race prize. So I gave them a shout-out last week, but then they only went and won the duck race. So they couldn't win their own prize, so I sent them out a prize. So this week, tonight, is last week's prize that I advertised, which was the three ducks, courtesy of Emsden is tonight. So you could win that. We'll try again, and if Emsden win again, I'm sorry, but there's something going on. There's something going on, something rigged. Absolutely rigged.

SPEAKER_02 6:21

Lana is mine. Oh, this is Flana, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 6:24

Oh, Flana.

SPEAKER_02 6:25

Flana. 32 degrees.

SPEAKER_03 6:30

Yeah, it's quite a lot, isn't it? Oh, it's Paul Jokes from Wales. I met Paul today at Teeter Prince Cartoon.

SPEAKER_02 6:38

Oh, hello, Paul.

SPEAKER_03 6:39

I actually bought some stuff off him as well.

SPEAKER_02 6:42

You didn't see me because I was still asleep.

SPEAKER_03 6:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:46

I was sleeping.

SPEAKER_03 6:49

Yeah, there you go. Em's Den. Beautiful people. Thank you guys. And let's just see. Was there anything else jumping out in the chat that we needed to focus on before we move on?

SPEAKER_02 6:59

No, I didn't.

SPEAKER_03 7:00

Before we get on with the show. Life in the first lane said the style of the show is back. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Assume they meant me. Yeah, I think we've covered everything.

SPEAKER_02 7:13

Everyone is literally the same out.

SPEAKER_03 7:15

Somebody said eBay's dead. Who was that? Joe John said eBay's dead. eBay's over, sorry. eBay's over. Interested to know why, Joe. Why do you think eBay?

SPEAKER_02 7:26

That's a mind drop, innit? Walking. eBay's over. Boom!

SPEAKER_03 7:29

Yeah, it's done. Finished. Yeah, I think we've I think we're we're there. Yeah. Oh, Lisa said it's dead. Well, I'll tell you what, it has been quiet this weekend, but sun's out, isn't it? So and I to be honest with you, I've not listed anything all weekend. Saturday, Sunday, Monday, anything new. I've been doing cell similars and old relists and adjusting prices and stuff like I do on a daily basis. But I've not listed anything new all weekend. Hang on a minute, I've had a sale in.

SPEAKER_02 8:02

And Alex said it's flying for them on eBay. Far from dead.

SPEAKER_03 8:08

Yeah. But I have still made some sales. I did. Actually, what did I do yesterday? I had I had a quiet Saturday, I think, because it was the first of the really nice warm weather. But yesterday I did have a good day, actually. Let me just check my stats.

SPEAKER_02 8:23

Have I missed? But everyone's saying people are saying hello to Jeff. Is it a different Jeff?

SPEAKER_03 8:28

Yesterday I did 255 quid on eBay. That's not bad for a day. Today so far I've only done £50.27p. But I'm hoping we might sneak a couple more sales in before the end of the day's done. But yeah, Sunday the 24th, $255.94. That's not bad at all, is it? But no, I wouldn't I wouldn't say eBay was dead. Joe, wherever you are, if you're still here. Oh, hang on a minute. Rachel might say different. I I haven't had one eBay sale in seven days. Wow. Wow. Rachel, that's that's that's bad. That is bad, I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_02 9:10

Half term killer.

SPEAKER_03 9:11

But I guess like have you been listing anything? And if not, you know, have you been doing eBay live? Has that propped you up this week? Or are you counting that in there? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 9:21

Is it half-term this week?

SPEAKER_03 9:23

Is it? I don't know. Don't know.

SPEAKER_02 9:26

I don't have I don't have we don't have anything. We're not up to date on it anymore. We don't have children anymore, so I never know if it's half-term or not, but I think it is, isn't it? Is it the May? May after term. I think that's normally around this bank holiday.

SPEAKER_03 9:39

Liz Scotty Dog says, if I need something niche, I look on eBay. It's unlikely I'd find it on an eBay live. Yeah, you'd have to be very lucky, wouldn't you? I think they're very different stores. There's a place for both. You're probably right there, definitely. But what we're gonna talk about today is a critical moment that's coming for eBay live. Coming, it's gonna be soon. We know it's gonna be soon. And it's gonna make or break eBay live, and we'll talk about it in a bit. And that's not being dramatic. Honest to God, it is going to make or break it for a lot of people. Probably myself included, I'll be honest with you. So we'll talk about that as soon as we've got through the general start of the show, chit-chat.

SPEAKER_02 10:23

Yeah, it's half-turn this week. Oh, is it? Which explains why it's been so bloody busy. It manic here.

SPEAKER_03 10:29

Yeah, crazy. Crazy busy. Crazy on the coast.

SPEAKER_02 10:33

We're just gonna hide away for a week if it's half-turn. I'm confused, Lana. I can't see Jeff in the chat anyway. No, I can't either. She's sorry, that might be my fault. I asked Jeff a question, then people started to say hello, but I haven't seen him in the chat.

SPEAKER_03 10:47

Yeah, I don't think I don't think I've seen him either. Unless there's a different Jeff. He's probably come under a different name today.

SPEAKER_02 10:53

No, I haven't even seen anybody.

SPEAKER_03 10:55

Is Jeff in? Uh Rachel says, I've listed 20 this week. Haven't done a live since last Monday. Been semi-lazy, so it was my fault. Nah, fair enough. I'm sure you'll be able to pick it up soon. And yes, my children are home this week. Crying face.

SPEAKER_02 11:14

Nope, don't miss the uh holiday seasons.

SPEAKER_03 11:20

That was Rachel fantastic, by the way, for those listening. Paul Jokes says I made over £100 at the car boot today. Still got the little house on the prairie box set. You should have sold it me, Paul, for an absolute steal. I'd have had it off you, but it was still a little bit expensive for me. He had a little House on the Prairie DVD set, and they go for over £100.

SPEAKER_02 11:44

What did you offer him?

SPEAKER_03 11:45

I didn't offer him. He was kind of looking for £60, which is still a fair price if you're buying it for yourself, but obviously there's not much in it for me to resell it, you know, by the time you sort of spent about 20% on your fees. But you know, I might have had it for I think he I think he actually offered me 50 in the end, but it was still a little bit tight on the old margins for me. But hopefully you'll get rid of it. Get it back on eBay, but I wouldn't do it on auction, just put it on buy it now. And you may if you put it on buy it now, you if you're only asking 60 on on the car boot, then clearly you're happy to get 60. Put it up for 70 or 80 on eBay, buy it now. You'll probably have someone snap your hand off at that.

SPEAKER_02 12:28

Ooh, life in the first place. Now stop watching eBay live, not liking the way people hold off selling an item until they get X amount of likes or X amount of viewers. I've got money to spend, but not willing to wait all night. What's that all about? Dunno. Unless you get X amount of likes. What difference does that make?

SPEAKER_03 12:51

So you're trying to generate people are trying to generate, you know, like when you say, oh, hit the likes, and people obviously trying to generate likes, generate interest in the show, bump their show higher up the rankings so you get more people in so that your items can sell for a bit more.

SPEAKER_02 13:07

And then is that where we're going wrong?

SPEAKER_03 13:10

Probably, yeah. That's probably why everything sells for a pound for us. Fair enough, though. Fair enough.

SPEAKER_02 13:16

Uh hoops and pause has gone from making 1500 to 2,000 a month last year to barely scraping 400 this year on eBay. Nothing I do makes any difference.

SPEAKER_03 13:25

Oh dear.

SPEAKER_02 13:26

That is a drip that is a dramatic drop. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:29

That's a big change. Has anything changed in your in your reselling, in your business, what you're selling, you know, what kind of stock you're putting up? Are you putting any new stuff stuff up? You know, has anything changed at all? Seems a bit dramatic, that.

SPEAKER_02 13:45

Wet Beaver says Chris Chirk is massive, the biggest I've seen it in 20 years.

SPEAKER_03 13:49

Nearly went today as well, but I couldn't be bothered. I have to get up so early to get to Chirk. Because we're just over an hour away, so I yeah, it opens at like five, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_02 14:00

Like a day trip out.

SPEAKER_03 14:01

Yeah. I I nearly went today, but in the end I stayed local. We did two local car boots.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

I've got a very sore scar today in an armpit.

SPEAKER_03 14:14

So yeah, I nearly went today, but I just I just I can't be arsed getting up at where's the fun in getting up at that time? And I I wouldn't mind getting up at that time if the place was local, but then you've got to drive a whole hour and get a whole hour back. It's it's a long, it's a long haul. And to be fair, I don't need the stock. And it's probably why you're not seeing as many car boot videos as what I would normally put out. Because I just don't don't need the stock. I've got a lot of a lot of stuff to list at the moment. So it's crazy just to keep buying when you've already got loads of stock. So that's kind of my excuse anyway. But I do want to get there as soon as I still want I do want to get back down to church. But as soon as I'm I'm feeling like I need, you know, a good haul, I'll go back again.

SPEAKER_02 15:02

Hoofs and pause, there's nothing's changed apart from eBay live happening.

SPEAKER_03 15:06

Hmm. What kind of stuff does hoops what hoofs and pause, what kind of stuff do you sell? Oh at church. Oh, good. I'm glad then I didn't go today then. I did read a few people like saying that Sunday was Sunday was very busy at church. Oh, there's Jeff on Facebook. What are you doing on Facebook, Jeff? Can't watch his on Facebook.

SPEAKER_02 15:35

Oh, is that why I couldn't see you? Because I don't show up on there.

SPEAKER_03 15:39

Yeah, probably. Well, I've only just seen one message from him. So Floor says I live ten minutes from church, one of the best around, but I need my car fixing, so I'm missing out. Not being able not being to a boot sale in about a year. Oh wow. Wow. I think if I live ten minutes from church, I'd probably be there every week.

SPEAKER_02 16:00

Oh you can stop for free on Saturdays.

SPEAKER_03 16:06

Yeah, you can, yeah, you can stay over that. Who've some poor's clothing and footwear? I must admit my footwear is clothed slowed down a lot, like sales of footwear, like trainers and shoes and stuff. But I've not been buying as much either, so I'm kind of stuck with older stock.

SPEAKER_02 16:26

Almost forgot, Jess has almost forgot about this. It's Memorial Day for Sunday.

SPEAKER_03 16:33

Yeah, I think Kevin Hawthorne sent me an email saying happy Memorial Day. What's um what is I mean, sorry to be so ignorant, but what what is Memorial Day?

SPEAKER_02 16:46

What what does it like our remembrance day?

SPEAKER_03 16:48

Oh, is it is it to do with wars or I I actually don't know have a clue.

SPEAKER_02 16:52

Is it like remembering fallen soldiers like our remembrance day is?

SPEAKER_03 16:58

Let us know, Jeff. We'd be interested to know what it actually represents.

SPEAKER_02 17:05

Huskis says this is the least amount of boot sales I've been to. It's getting quite bad because I've so much infantry just sitting on eBay, not going anywhere due to various reasons. Oh, there you go, Andrew says yes, it is. So it's like the equivalent of our remembrance day.

SPEAKER_03 17:23

Right, right. Okie doke. Right then. So we're done all oh before we crack on. Oh, why is my phone just suddenly glowing? Why is it glowing?

SPEAKER_02 17:36

Because it's got a picture of me on it.

SPEAKER_03 17:37

Obviously, it's going to be glowing. Does that mean it's listening to me at some point? Before we carry on, so don't forget. I'm going to say a big thank you to all our channel members, all our VIP members to the channel. Lots of you. There's over 60 of you in our membership. Really appreciate it. And it gets you entry into our Discord group, which is a a nice little community of resellers and a few non-resellers as well. It's $2.99 a month. It's cheaper than a Greg Filatte or cheaper than a matcha. You know.

SPEAKER_02 18:11

I'm not allowed to comment.

SPEAKER_03 18:13

And you get you get access to an amazing group of people. We help each other out. We talk absolute nonsense, but it's good fun. I probably didn't sell it much by saying that, but we do. We're just a nice group of people in there. So please feel free to join us. Just hit the join button down below. Check it out. And there is some other benefits as well, but the main one is you get access to the Discord. And there's only one level, it's just $2.99 a month. There's no $5.99, $9.99, whatever. It's just $2.99. So feel free, come and join us.

SPEAKER_02 18:49

Bruce and Paul says fortunately vintage is picking up the slack.

SPEAKER_03 18:54

I've had five sales on vintage over this bank holiday weekend. Let me just have a look and I'll tell you what value it amounts to. I've had a message on eBay as well. I've just noticed there. My orders. Sold. What have I sold? I've sold five jerseys on vintage. £27, £27.90, £28, £16. $11. Yeah. So what's that? Call it £25 on average. £25.50, £7500. About £120. About £120 over the weekend. That's not too bad, is it, for Vinted over the weekend. I don't know if I've not listed anything new on Vinted either. I've not actually done anything on Vinted this weekend. I've not even done realists, price reductions, nothing. And they've I've still had five sales dripped through. The only thing I've done is every Sunday evening now, I renew my spotlight every Sunday evening. So I'd pretty much made all those sales before that anyway. So not to worry.

SPEAKER_02 20:02

Husky says I've been using Chat GPT today, though, haven't listed anything new and revised old stale items and boom three sales partly from bank holiday, I suppose, too.

SPEAKER_03 20:14

I I I still do the process that I did a video on a few couple of months back. Every single day, I'm ending items, selling similar. I'm also doing price reductions on certain ones, and I promote items that reach one month old. I put them on and promoted. It seems to work for me. It seems to work for me, but I can't guarantee it'll work for everybody else. Oh, there you go, Memorial Day. Remembering those who paid the ultimate sacrifice for freedom.

SPEAKER_00 20:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:49

Chris Tyler, what's the stats from that flipping news, Chris? Are you happy with it? Um, I think I would have liked it to have done a little bit better. I I was thinking it might do better. I think we're on about 1200 views since Saturday at 11. So two, what days it say, Monday? Two days, oh, just over two days. I guess it's just a new it's a new idea. No one's ever done it before. I've not seen anyone do something similar. And it's not a boot sale video, which everybody wants, don't they? They want the boot sale videos. I put out, I put out when I put out the video, I said if it gets to 2,000 views, which is a pretty modest number of views for for my channel anyway. If it hits 2,000, I'll make another episode. So I think I'm gonna stand by that. Because it takes so long to edit and pull that video together. It took a long time. Plus, you have to use a green screen, which we had fun with this afternoon, didn't we?

SPEAKER_02 21:51

Don't even. Considering we're YouTubers, or he's a YouTuber, we stood and fought with this giant pop-up green screen. For at least what a good 25 minutes before I YouTube how to do it, and then we managed to do it in about 10 minutes.

SPEAKER_03 22:09

Yeah, it's one of these, it's one of these, a bit like a one of them pop-up tent, and it flips out, and then you've got to find a way to fold it and get it back in the bag. Oh my god, what an chuckle brothers, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_02 22:22

Well, you were ready for giving up after my bag. Oh, I haven't given up, yeah. But I was determined, I was like, it's not beating there. We're getting this back in the bag. But we've now we've remembered, haven't we? We're gonna hopefully next time we've remembered fold like a taco, twist and flap. Yeah, fold like a taco, twist and flap.

SPEAKER_03 22:44

I just remembered the flaps bit. Thanks, Husty. Husty likes the t-shirt. Oh, you want to see what's on the back? Sure show. Should show good job. I've got actually some shorts on the back.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

I know, and you're not starting commando.

SPEAKER_03 22:57

You see?

SPEAKER_02 22:58

Oh, yeah, there we go.

SPEAKER_03 23:00

It's good, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 23:01

Is this the one we got from America?

SPEAKER_03 23:03

Got it from the States, brought it back.

SPEAKER_02 23:04

In um, not Walgreens.

SPEAKER_03 23:06

What's the big bit like TK Maxx? Yeah, it's a bit of a TK Maxxy type.

SPEAKER_02 23:10

TJ. Yeah, I think that's TJ Max.

SPEAKER_00 23:16

Where were the two?

SPEAKER_02 23:19

What did Lana say? That felt personal, an attack on Bell. Let's know you're let us know you're okay, and I'll come and get you if you need a lot of things. What's that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 23:28

What does that mean?

SPEAKER_02 23:29

What's the what I'm that used to the abuse, Lana? I don't know what you're talking about. Which bit do you think it was a bit personal?

SPEAKER_03 23:35

Uh Wet Beaver says personally, personally, I think whatnot is killing eBay very hard to compete with the wholesale companies and the sellers front in the whatnot prices are so low.

SPEAKER_02 23:48

Maybe, but whatnot's been going for a few years now, hasn't it?

SPEAKER_03 23:52

Yeah. Babs' eBay shop is dead.

SPEAKER_00 23:55

Hi, Babs.

SPEAKER_03 23:56

Hi, Babs. What do you promote at Chris? I promote at 2.5% now. And I don't promote for the first month, an entire month of a new listing. Or a sell similar listing, because that starts as a new one. I don't promote for an entire month. It seems to be working very nicely at the f at the moment for me.

SPEAKER_02 24:14

Jeff said that flipping news was fun. Just need a man on the street and a weather segment to feel like a real newscast.

SPEAKER_03 24:21

Yeah. That would be a good idea.

SPEAKER_02 24:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:25

I think the problem, Husty says, I think the problem is eBay's been become too big for its boots.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

Maybe.

SPEAKER_03 24:34

Yeah, let's go down. Oh, Flippin Wolf. Hi, Flippin' Wolf, Scott. Uh, green screen makes me think back to the Amstrad computer days.

SPEAKER_02 24:43

It's massive, that bloody thing. It is massive.

SPEAKER_03 24:47

Oh, Husty likes the back of the tea.

SPEAKER_02 24:51

No, I really like it.

SPEAKER_03 24:53

Oh, there you go. Life in the first lane. It's Steve Not Lana, and it was the comparison around the membership and coffee prices. Wet Beaver says flipping news was great. Can we have a John Shepard meltdown news all the time? He's been a good sport about that, by the way. I have to give him props. He he gave me permission to use the video, and like everybody else, and uh he was a very good sport about it.

SPEAKER_02 25:21

So sorry, Steve. I forget that we've got life life of Flana, Falana now. And you was life in the first lane.

SPEAKER_03 25:32

eBay's overcomplicating itself, says Wet Beaver. And Lisa says, I don't think UK whatnot has been as good recently. Now eBay. I guess, yeah, I guess that would kind of make sense. You know, they've got competition now, aren't they, in the UK? And Jeff, before we crack on, because we need to talk about today's topic, Jeff says, weather segment just cut to some poor saps out in an empty field with rain pouring down on you with no sails. Would be funny, wouldn't it?

SPEAKER_00 26:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:01

I would like to do another episode, but it's it's so time consuming. It's kind of like a time versus reward. And I enjoy putting it together. What did you think about flipping news, babe?

SPEAKER_02 26:18

I thought it was good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:20

Oh, you did have some critique for me though, didn't you? She always had some.

SPEAKER_02 26:24

That's why you show it, man. I just thought these segments were a little long.

SPEAKER_03 26:28

Oh yeah, she said, oh yeah, Belle Bell reckoned the segments were a bit long.

SPEAKER_02 26:31

I thought they needed to be a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 26:33

Oh, you mean like the clips? The clips were a bit long.

SPEAKER_02 26:35

Yeah. So he did his talking and then he showed a clip, and I just think the clips needed to be a little bit snapped.

SPEAKER_03 26:40

I actually agree. I agree with that.

SPEAKER_02 26:41

But other than that, I liked it. I thought it was good. I thought you were I thought you played a very good host.

SPEAKER_03 26:48

Yeah, I tried to do it deadpan. Hoof some poor says, I've been selling on eBay for 16 years, and I think it might be time to leave for good. Becoming not worth the time and energy. What would you do instead, Hoofs and Paul? Or is it is it a side hustle for you? Or, you know, how much do you rely on eBay? You know, is it full-time? I'm not sure. So, you know, what would you do? Or would you just like I don't need it, so I'll leave it.

SPEAKER_02 27:16

Well, BB says some of the big whatnot sellers I see have moved over to TikTok.

SPEAKER_03 27:23

I know. TikTok seems to be bringing on some like secondhand sellers as well, you know, just sellers like us, resellers. It's not just about the the Timu, the Timu shit that they sell on there. It's becoming more about a live selling platform now. So it's interesting to see how that progresses.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

Well, excuse me, personally, I can't stand eBay lie, keep seeing all these stupid celebrities promoting it when I log on to the main page. Looks cheap.

SPEAKER_03 27:52

It's not for everyone. Definitely not. Jeff says, time, you have to decide do you want to be a YouTube creator or a YouTube editor? Hire that work out. Yeah, but then that costs money, Jeff. And then you have to ask, how much does a video earn? And does it earn enough for you to pay someone to edit the video? And I think for my level of channel, no, is the answer to that. I think when you get to maybe 30,000 subs and above, you probably could bring in an editor and still make some money, but it would cut out a lot of your earnings. I don't even know what it would cost these days to actually have someone edit your video.

SPEAKER_02 28:39

Time equals money. That is true. Yeah. Chris says maybe have Bell's funny moments from the Monday Monday Lives. How many funny moments do you do you think there is?

SPEAKER_03 28:51

Well, there is one from last week that I could put in, but I don't want it to be self-promotion. That's what I'm that's what I'm trying to avoid. But I might think about Rachel. Yeah, yeah. I might put that. If I'm desperate for a space on the next episode, I might put Belle when she talks about Rachel Fantastics Baps, basically, last week. If you missed it, it's probably worth a watch.

SPEAKER_02 29:13

I it it wasn't I was being I was complimenting Rachel.

SPEAKER_03 29:19

I might, I might put it in because I could put a funny spin on that.

SPEAKER_02 29:23

I was complimenting Rachel.

SPEAKER_03 29:26

Um yeah, if you if you guys have not watched that flipping that's flipping news, my new video that I put out the weekend, please go give it a watch and drop a comment. I've had lots of likes, comments, and hypes, but YouTube just doesn't seem to have found the right audience to push it to at the moment. That's kind of what Chat GPT is telling me, anyway. It's like, mm, it it's got the good click-through rate, so people are liking the thumbnail. The retention time's not bad, roughly on average, 50% of the video is not a bad retention time at all. But it's just YouTube not quite finding the audience for it yet.

SPEAKER_02 30:03

Rachel said it was buns, actually. See? Rachel remembers the compliment.

SPEAKER_03 30:08

Oh, is it buns? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

We were talking about the English language and the diff varying ways of saying buns and what they stand for.

SPEAKER_03 30:16

Yeah, true. Gentlemen Marketeer, Simon, I've embraced eBay Live, and so far up 60% this year. That's good. That's good.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

Oh, you missed hoofs and parsley, they're gonna put all their effort into vintage, and they're also a dog walker.

SPEAKER_03 30:28

Oh, okay, okay. I've seen lots of people slagging vintage off lately. So who knows?

SPEAKER_02 30:36

But then I've also seen a lot of people saying that vintage is the one that's still working for them.

SPEAKER_03 30:44

Okay, let's talk about the main topic, right? So the main topic was what was it again? Oh, eBay Live is approaching a critical moment, and it will either live or die based on what happens next. And that moment is you might have guessed already, fees. And at the moment, the majority of people, and I don't think I'm speaking out of turn here, I think it's fairly common knowledge that the majority of sellers, if not all sellers right now on eBay, are not paying any fees. When eBay Live has been giving out contracts, pretty much everyone, as far as I'm aware, has been getting six months zero fees. But I am also aware of their new contracts that are being issued now, seem to be, from what I'm hearing, three months with zero fees. So they're reducing the zero fee period, which to me, in my mind, tells me at some point in the near future, in three, four, five, six months, maybe before Christmas, eBay are gonna have to come out and tell us what's going on with their fees. There must be people who signed up more than six months ago who have coming up to the end of their or even finished their six months zero fees. I'm just wondering, I don't know what happens to those people or if eBay are just carrying it on, you know, like giving them grandfather rights or whatever over the zero fees for now until they decide. Because I don't think they have a fee structure set for eBay Live yet. So it's going to be a critical moment the minute eBay decide and announce what the fee structure will be. It's not going to be free forever. So when fees come in, what's it gonna be? If eBay, this is my opinion, if eBay decide to go down the route of it's gonna be the same fees as eBay core, with the final value fees, the fixed fees, the regulatory operating fees, that kind of stuff, then that's going to kill it for a lot of the smaller sellers. Because if you if you are selling things at a pound, three pound, five pound, those small sales get hit with quite big percentage fees when you examine what the percentages actually are. And it it definitely at one pound a sale, you you you might as well just post something for free at that point. Honestly, you might as well. A bit like Whatnot. If you sell something on Whatnot for a pound, you get 59p. If eBay were to bring in their standard fees as they stand now, for example, if you sold a t-shirt for £1 on eBay Live and it's subject to eBay's standard fees as they are now, it would cost you £43p in fees. So you would only come out with £57p on a pound sale. If you sold a t-shirt for £3 on eBay Live and you are subject to the current fees as they stand, it would cost you 68p in fees. What it is, it's that fixed fee that is the killer. And it's the same on whatnot, it's the fixed fee that kills you, the 30p or the 35p. It kills you that fixed fee. If it's just a percentage, it's nowhere near as bad. Because when you're selling low-value stuff, one, two, three pound, even five pound, that's when the fixed fees start adding up. So my opinion is whatever decision they come to on eBay Live, the fee is going to be critical to how successful it's going to be going forward and how they're going to compete with whatnot. My personal opinion is they should have a completely different fee structure for eBay Live. They should have a fixed percentage fee. I don't expect it to be free forever. I mean, come on, let's be realistic about it. They're a business, they have to make money. I don't expect it to be free forever. They're doing the right thing, they're making it free now so that they can build up an audience, but at some point they're going to start. And my opinion is it should be very, very simple so that we all know what we're paying when we sell something. 5%, even up to 10%. Just if I sell something for £1, it's a 10% fee, I get 90p of the pound. That's not so bad, is it? If I sell something for £5, it's 10%, it costs me 50p as a seller. I get £4.50 out of it. Keep it simple and keep it fair. If you start adding all the fixed fees, variable final value fees, regulatory fee, all these nonsense fees, it's going to put off a lot of the smaller sellers. Like me, I class myself as a smaller seller online. I'm definitely not a big seller. It will put us off.

SPEAKER_02 36:25

Couldn't you say that just about eBay Core anyway? If they're not doing it on there, what reasons have they got to do it on the eBay live?

SPEAKER_03 36:31

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_02 36:32

If you're saying just having a percentage fee rather than all these different ones would be better for eBay live, surely that would be better if they did the same on regularly on normal.

SPEAKER_03 36:42

Yeah, no, but we've been saying that for a long time, but it's never going to happen.

SPEAKER_02 36:45

And that's what I'm saying. If they won't do it on the normal, then what are the chances they're going to do it on eBay live?

SPEAKER_03 36:50

They have said, like when I did my onboarding session, the guy said to me, they're up, they're they're discussing how to do a fee structure. And he said it's likely to be different than normal.

SPEAKER_00 37:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 37:05

And that's what I'd like to see, just a fixed percentage, keep it simple. Same percentage on every category. It's just 5%, it's just 10%, whatever. Just keep it simple and keep it fair. Because otherwise, all the smaller people, all the small sellers who just go on there to clear out or you know don't manage to achieve big numbers because the audiences are small, it's going to kill them off completely, and they'll lose, they'll lose all those, all those sellers.

SPEAKER_02 37:41

Retro Shellers got an interesting point of view now. Don't get me wrong, I'd like that, but across the board, as I'm a core seller, not interested in live, they'd have to keep it fair across the board, surely.

SPEAKER_03 37:53

But I think live, I'm not sure about that retro sheller, because I think live selling is a different, it's a different kettle of fish, to be honest. If you if you think, right, as a live seller, a lot of your things, sometimes your things can sell for a pound. And it's based on what audience you've got most of the time, and obviously the quality of the items that you're selling. So I think personally, I think eBay Live should have a different structure and a simple structure. Because there's absolutely no appeal whatsoever in selling something for one pound and paying 43p in fees. And if you do one pound starts, that's that is a reality. It will happen numerous times during your show, unless you've got over 100 people in your show, or over 50 at least, it will happen numerous times. And you're basically giving those items away. I would not list an item on eBay core for one pound to sell it. So for me, I think it deserves a different structure. At least I appreciate where you're coming from.

SPEAKER_02 39:07

Lisa said they will find a way of getting it back, they always do, as in all the free time that they've been giving people.

SPEAKER_03 39:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:16

Sure. Husky says, wait, you wait till they start charging for the chat B GPT thing.

SPEAKER_03 39:22

Oh, yeah, yeah. That's coming, isn't it? You get a year for free, but it's not going to be free forever, is it?

SPEAKER_02 39:26

El Raventa said if same fees as eBay core, it's dead.

SPEAKER_03 39:31

Absolutely, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:33

The economics of life selling are really difficult to get right and get the right stock for particular if you don't have a big particular.

SPEAKER_03 39:41

And this is what like Retro Seller was there had a really good point, like it should be the same or whatever she said, but but it's a different, it's a different way of sourcing, it's a different set of economics, like Ross has said there. It's completely different than actually selling on core. On core, you kind of you know what your big fees are, so you kind of adjust your prices accordingly, but you'd never list something for a pound. You'd never the only the only way you can ever make money on eBay selling anything for things that are less than five pounds is to do things in bulk, like have buy things for pennies and sell it in bulk, like have massive listings with numerous items on it, and and then you can afford to sell things for less than five pounds. But if you're selling one off items, you cannot. There's absolutely no point selling stuff for less than a fiver on eBay core because of the fees.

SPEAKER_02 40:35

Booth says eBay is greedy, it will be the same fees.

SPEAKER_03 40:39

I hope not, because I do think they will shoot themselves in the foot.

SPEAKER_02 40:44

Husky said they will milk the cow until it's dry.

SPEAKER_03 40:47

Possibly. Um Krillin's talking about football, but I've not been following Hull. I'm I'm not sure, to be honest.

SPEAKER_02 40:58

Wet Beaver says back to overcomplicating things.

SPEAKER_03 41:01

Probably. Probably. Vintage Lie, there you go. Seller George. Can't see it. They can't even manage their own platform. Can you imagine? It would be chaos.

SPEAKER_02 41:14

Husky says, like, eBay is ever given a care about smaller sellers despite what they spout.

SPEAKER_00 41:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:20

What we've said sliding fee fiddle factor as usual.

SPEAKER_00 41:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:25

Alex says eBay has never kept it simple for a day. I'm sure they do this on purpose.

SPEAKER_03 41:31

Well, they do because instead of like putting up final value fees, variable value fees, they'll they'll bring in a completely new fee. They'll make up a fee and they'll keep it low at first, like the regulatory operating fee is 0.35% or whatever it is at the moment. But you can bet your bottom dollar, that price, that fee will go up and it will keep going up.

SPEAKER_02 41:57

Once people get into the swing of paying for it. Lisa says, I can't see it, but you never know. Someone could do as good as oh no, that's still football.

SPEAKER_03 42:06

Still football. Vinted live, can you imagine? I know. It'd be an absolute shit show, wouldn't it?

SPEAKER_01 42:13

Uh Retro Sheller says, I get that, but it's down to you whether you start at a pound, right?

SPEAKER_03 42:17

The problem is, Retro Sheller, a lot of the times, if you don't start at a pound, sometimes your interest really wanes. People like to start and feel like they're gonna get they might have a chance of getting a bargain. I don't start everything at a pound. Like we have premium ideas.

SPEAKER_02 42:34

We were doing well, we were doing three pounds, we were doing five pounds, or yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:38

The the other the the other flip side is that if they bring in standard fees like eBay Core, I think the the the one pound start will be finished for almost everybody. Nobody will do one pound starts, and that'll also have a knock-on effect on buying activity because people will come in looking for that bargain, the chance of getting something really cheap on an auction, but nobody will be doing one pound starts anymore unless you've got a big audience and you're sure it's going to go over a put over a quid. All the small sellers will never do one pound starts again. And you know, that might be the way it goes. And if that's what happens, that's the way it goes. And I will just do what like what I started doing on Whatnot, was mostly I started doing three pound starts in the end, didn't I? I was doing a lot of three pound starts instead. Occasionally, if the vibe in the room was that there was bidders, I might do a one pound start just for the hell of it. But it it kind of turned into I'd like to carry on doing one pound start, but you can't do it if the fees are too high. It's if it's 43p to sell a t shirt for a pound, then you can't do it. There's no point, really. Let's let's be honest about it. There's no point.

SPEAKER_01 43:57

Husky says, I am happy today, honestly, even though I'm sounding like

SPEAKER_02 44:00

Like a miserable toad.

SPEAKER_03 44:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:02

It's fine. We're all we're just having a c a topic of conversation.

SPEAKER_03 44:05

And Husty also has got a really good point here. I do not want to see the inside of some vintage sellers' houses. Yeah. No one wants to see it, do they?

SPEAKER_02 44:14

Lisa says they will make up some lame reason for it. Andrew says there's a lot of eBay negative tonight. Well, it's not that there's a lot of eBay negative, it's it's just that this is the top of conversation, isn't it, about these fees that are coming in. It just so happened that people are having a bad time on eBay at the minute. So that's felt that's kind of fell in with it as well, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 44:33

We don't know when fees are going to start, by the way, for eBay Live. But it's going to come at some point because they've just they've recently started giving three-month contracts to new sellers on eBay Live, which which tells me something is that they are slowly reducing those zero fees. And at some point, if they're only giving, if right now if someone signs up for eBay Live, you get three months with no fees, then they're anticipating in the next few months starting to charge people, starting to charge sellers, which is fine. But I please, eBay, if you're listening, keep it simple, keep it fair. If you want eBay Live to grow, you've got to look at these fees properly.

SPEAKER_02 45:19

Well, Four says, I think it's a touch too soon to introduce the fees while eBay Live is still early days. They need to grow the audience numbers more.

SPEAKER_03 45:27

Maybe, maybe, but if that's the case, why are they reducing the the zero fee period in half? That to me tells me it's coming. They've got a cut-off point. It's coming. There's a cut-off point, it's coming, I reckon.

SPEAKER_02 45:40

Our Aventus is eBay could significantly undercut whatnot and take control of the market on fees.

SPEAKER_03 45:45

Absolutely, they could. If they did what I said and just made it a flat percentage, well, I tell you what, you watch whatnot sellers flood to eBay. You watch it.

SPEAKER_02 46:00

Life in the first lane said all the sites are the same. Vinted has seen rocket price rises since having business accounts on there. And that will put buyers off.

SPEAKER_03 46:13

Possibly, who knows? Yeah. I don't see him doing that. I don't see him doing the buyer protection thing, but you can't rule it out.

SPEAKER_02 46:24

Husky says leave the life selling to whatnot. eBay Live will be no more in about five years. They literally just react to every other platform out there nowadays. They need to think of something new themselves.

SPEAKER_03 46:37

What is new to think of?

SPEAKER_01 46:39

I know.

SPEAKER_03 46:41

Fair point. Linlan said I never get notified for eBay lives. You you the thing with, I think, as far as I'm aware, the thing with eBay live notifications, you have to have all your eBay notifications turned on. You I don't think you can do it seller specific. So if there's something in your have a look in your settings, Lin Lynn, and look at your notifications. There might be something turned off in there. That little shit of a dog is digging up our carpet.

SPEAKER_02 47:16

Stop it. No.

SPEAKER_03 47:22

She goes like this, and she started digging up the edge of the bloody carpet on the stairs.

SPEAKER_00 47:26

Leave it alone.

SPEAKER_03 47:29

Why does she do that, babe?

SPEAKER_02 47:31

It's attention.

SPEAKER_03 47:32

She's attention seeking. But she's gonna let you shut up.

SPEAKER_02 47:36

But she's doing it that much there in that spot that it's making it's actually she's made a hole in the edge.

SPEAKER_03 47:42

I'm gonna have to put a patch.

SPEAKER_02 47:43

I have my mic, and I'm sorry I've just shouted down it at the dog. She just stood there looking at me defiantly.

SPEAKER_03 47:51

Yeah, hi Rob. Did Poshmark ever come? No. It left after a year and said it would never come back, I think. I believe if I remember rightly, they said they weren't coming back. That was it. It's the end.

SPEAKER_02 48:05

End of that'll be interesting on the podcast. Me screaming down the mic. Sorry about that, folks.

SPEAKER_03 48:13

Alex's retro. Who remembers when eBay brought out no fees for clothes yet? Over the Christmas period, a little while back because Vinted was stepping on eBay's toes and need to bring something back to encourage. Yeah, it would be good. Oh yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:32

Busky says that's because eBay have a tendency to twist the truth at times to be polite.

SPEAKER_03 48:39

Chris Tyler, is there too many eBay live sellers? I'm not sure. I'm not on it that often, like as a buyer. Like I used to be on whatnot all the time as a buyer, but that's because you had a lot of free cash to spend. Yeah, I had lots of money to spend, yeah, to be fair. Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't think it's oversaturated at the moment, but certain categories are hard to get a grip of.

SPEAKER_02 49:04

See, eBay's not gone down that route, have they, of paying you for getting people on board.

SPEAKER_03 49:12

Yeah, no, they don't they haven't been given them.

SPEAKER_02 49:17

If you referred people and they use your link, then you got free money. And at first it was anything up to £200, wasn't it? You could have anything between £10 and £200.

SPEAKER_03 49:26

No, that was the early days. I got a few £200, me. I got lucky on a few times. Got a few £200. It was random, and I think I think on one point I got two lots of £200 in a row. Like it was really good. But eBay haven't been doing anything.

SPEAKER_02 49:42

Again, that takes it down that gamification thing that they were doing.

SPEAKER_03 49:49

Husty says, I think for me it's all the silly AI titles screens I see for live, which is part of the reason it turns me off as I'm now old. As I'm old now.

SPEAKER_02 49:58

What did I say to you about using because Chris has got Chris has fallen into this trap of AI? It's a trap. AI in L is a trap. Shut up. AI in all his only for eBay Live.

SPEAKER_03 50:13

I've stopped doing it. I've stopped doing it on my main thumbnails for using. I've stopped doing it.

SPEAKER_02 50:19

And the the thing was, right? And it was he came to me with one of them, and it looked nothing, nothing like us. It was an improvement then. Nothing, no, it wasn't. I looked rank, it was bad. And I stood there and I went, That's awful. Do not use that. It's awful. And he's like, Really? And I'm like, yes, it's awful. It doesn't look like me. It's a horrible. And he's like, really? No, but he did use it. And you know how I found out he used it? Because his mother mentioned it and went, What was that picture? Looks nothing like you. Bell looked terrible. I'm like, thanks, mate.

SPEAKER_03 50:57

Thanks, mate.

SPEAKER_02 50:58

Yeah, thanks.

SPEAKER_03 50:59

You never say that. That's not a phrase you use.

SPEAKER_02 51:02

Well, thanks, mate. I could have used something harsher, but I thought I just used mate on you. Is that all right?

SPEAKER_03 51:09

Mad not mad says, Oyois Savaloys. I subscribed over a year again. Loved your last one. Flipping news. Great watch, great humour. Oh, thank you very much, Mad. Watch out for the potholes and be good. Thank you. I appreciate it. I'll try and do another episode, but I want it to get a few more views to make it worthwhile.

SPEAKER_02 51:30

She's so restless, the dog. I think it's just too warm for her. She just keeps coming to the door and staring at me.

SPEAKER_03 51:38

Wet Beaver said, I believe Vint Mix is not happy with what eBay promised him. What who's Vint Mix? I don't know what that is. Is that a seller? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 51:49

See, life in the first lane. On the last one, you look like Jurgen Klopp.

SPEAKER_03 51:54

I'll have that.

SPEAKER_02 51:56

But I've seen quite a few people say the same, and I I have I have found it. So many people are AI in, like advertising stuff, promoting things, things like jumble trails, jumble stuff.

SPEAKER_03 52:08

They do look the same, don't they?

SPEAKER_02 52:09

And they all look the same. So when you're going through looking for stuff, you think you've already seen it because it looks the same as the last one. There's no individuality anymore. It's just like carbon copies.

SPEAKER_03 52:23

So yeah, I'm glad if you're saying that you're moving away from it because it I just use AI to help me with the background, but then I want to put our like faces on it.

SPEAKER_02 52:34

Actually put us on. And you were like, oh well, means I have to take a picture. I know. Well, that's what you have to do for years.

SPEAKER_03 52:39

Yeah, that's true. But when you find something that's a bit quicker, but it's not working properly. Yeah, it's not as good. Whatnot was never competition for eBay, but Vinted is, so I don't know why they're destroying their platform by introducing live selling and not competing with Vinted instead. That's a big, big statement. I think they're trying to obviously stay with the times, aren't they? Stay with the younger generation who seem to be enjoying live selling, especially like TikTok. TikTok's huge, isn't it? And TikTok will be the next one. TikTok are already like I've had I I have a selling account on TikTok and I have sold on there. And I've been bombarded by TikTok trying to say, come and sell, come and live sell with us. But there seems to be people appearing on that platform just selling random stuff like what we do on eBay Live and whatnot. So that's another platform. So there's something in it. These platforms are, you know, doing well with live selling. So there's something in it.

SPEAKER_02 53:46

Yeah, they're taking advantage of how much screen time people do.

SPEAKER_03 53:49

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 53:50

All we do, we sit and stare at our phones.

SPEAKER_03 53:53

Babs says the fees on eBay were much more simple in the beginning, 10% across the board for most categories. Now it's a big fat mess, isn't it, Babs?

SPEAKER_02 54:00

Yeah. Nicola has joined us. Hello, isn't Japanese, but I find whatnot with the delivery charge sometimes to be not that much cheaper than you could buy the item for anyway.

SPEAKER_03 54:14

Yeah, fair enough.

SPEAKER_02 54:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:16

It's like anything. You you look at what an item sells for or is going for on an auction and you have to decide whether it's worth it or not.

SPEAKER_02 54:25

Oh, sorry, guys, cookie has been told. I did jump when Belle yelled. So I can forget I've got a mic on.

SPEAKER_03 54:34

Yeah, exactly, Husty. It's meant to be confusing by design on eBay now, so you don't notice. It's like, you know, if if someone said to me, how much what's your fees selling such an item on eBay? Nowadays, I just say it's around 20%. By the time you've by the time you've added promoted listings fees and all this on it, I just say around 20%. I don't actually know half the time because every category's got a different percentage and it varies so much. If you sell something for under a tenner, it's a slightly different fee than over a tenner. If you're in the collectibles category, it's another slightly different fee because they're fine in the certain collectibles categories on eBay, it's only a 10p final value fee, not 30p or 40p. So yeah, it's very, very confusing.

SPEAKER_01 55:24

Andrew said, and I think I heard sellers have had to have their lives put in in advance as well.

SPEAKER_03 55:32

Ideally, you should you should put your live in advance anyway.

SPEAKER_02 55:36

I don't think it's so much like whatnot where people just pop up, is it, on eBay live?

SPEAKER_03 55:41

I don't think I've not really like watched loads of people on eBay Live. I've watched people that I like to follow, you know, like Z and a few other people, but I've not watched many. Christmas?

SPEAKER_02 55:55

Did someone say Christmas? Who mentioned Christmas? It's normally me. I didn't mention Christmas.

SPEAKER_01 56:05

Chris, have a word for yourself. No more AI.

SPEAKER_03 56:07

No more AI. AI picks do look all the same.

SPEAKER_01 56:11

Do you guys usually have holidays when there's no actual holiday? You mean like bank holidays?

SPEAKER_03 56:20

We have bank today's a what we call a bank holiday.

SPEAKER_02 56:26

We have like eight bank holidays a year.

SPEAKER_03 56:28

Yeah. Like national holiday days.

SPEAKER_02 56:30

And then they throw in a few extras like like when the queen died and when there was coronations and royal weddings and things like that.

SPEAKER_03 56:40

Yeah. Let's see, let's get down the chat a bit.

SPEAKER_02 56:46

The i AI screens remind me of a cheap Chinese market. Georgia doesn't like AI pictures, see? Nobody likes them.

SPEAKER_03 56:56

Uh Jeff says, Can't AI edit our videos yet? No, not really. You can get AI apps that'll kind of try and create your shorts for you, your short form content and your reels. But for me, I've tried them and they're not perfect. You end up having to edit them anyway. So it's like you might as well do it yourself.

SPEAKER_02 57:18

Uh Husky says ditch AI and grow old gracefully. I don't think it's anything to do with him being bothered about the way we look. Generally, I don't know what he's gonna say. If it needs a picture with both of us on, he's then got to come to me, and he can't do that at short notice because if I haven't got my face on or I'll look like a tramp, I won't let him take a photograph. So, what you need to do is get a stock of photographs. So we'll have a day. I've done my face, we'll have a day where I've done my face and I'll just change my top a few times and we'll get a load of stock photographs, and then you can use them.

SPEAKER_03 57:53

I used to do that for me. I had I had photos, but you know, like on thumbnails where you go, like that. I had loads of those and I had them all saved, and depending on the video, change it. But then sometimes I think people start seeing like the same pictures, and you just think it looks the same as another one. So I don't know. EBay gum.

SPEAKER_02 58:19

Uh vintage is only really popular because it's the source for most eBay resellers stock anyway.

SPEAKER_03 58:28

I buy a lot of stuff for myself.

SPEAKER_02 58:30

I was gonna say, I buy I buy I buy uh I don't buy from eBay clothing and stuff like that because I just find it's too expensive. But vintage, I do. I buy a lot from vintage.

SPEAKER_03 58:42

I've got a lot for myself on vintage and collectibles as well, and tiki mugs and all this, a lot of the stuff you see behind sometimes eBay, but sometimes vintage as well.

SPEAKER_02 58:51

Wet Beaver says yes, TikTok, keep pestering them.

SPEAKER_03 58:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:55

Chris Tyler says, I think John Shepherd is the right idea, or maybe not. Liz Scotty Dog says, I love eBay Live, watch most days too many Pokemon cards and trainers. I like the mixed shows.

SPEAKER_03 59:09

Oh, that's interesting, Lizzie. So it's a different perspective. Somebody who actually really likes watching on eBay Live. A lot of people have been like, Oh, I don't really like it, you know, why bother and all that. But Lizzie likes it.

SPEAKER_02 59:20

I still haven't watched an eBay live.

SPEAKER_03 59:22

You haven't? Not a single one.

SPEAKER_02 59:26

No, because I think I got I think I got so peed off with whatnot and the way it was going. I think I'm scared that if I go on eBay Live, I'm just gonna get the same vibe. So I just haven't bothered yet. But then I look at our show and I think I could be getting some really good bargains if I go on somebody else's show.

SPEAKER_03 59:47

I'm not gonna repeat the name because you're trying to trick me, but Ben says I've come over from your podcast on Apple. Oh, thank you, Ben. I appreciate it. Now, if I'd have read it out, well normally they catch me out.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:01

So Angel Delight has joined us. Hello, and so is Welsh Pope Picker.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:07

And yes, Ben, hopefully get some more guests on soon. Are you sick of Belle? Is that what it is? Yeah, yeah. I mean, over the next few weeks, maybe. Maybe because well, Belle's gonna be having radio therapy soon. So that might be an excuse for Belle to duck out for the next few weeks, maybe. So we'll see how she gets on, but I might try and get a couple of guests.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:28

That isn't a reason that I can have a day off then. What is and seeing as you've mentioned it, yes, folks, we have finally, after nearly six months, hit the final stage of this bump in the road that we've had. I start my radiotherapy on Friday, and I've got 10 days of it. So hopefully, all going well. My last day will be the 11th of June. And then that's it, I think.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:01

Fingers crossed, okay?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:02

Fingers crossed, I think that's it.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:06

Well's Pokey Picker. Welcome. I've been going to Hangoid Kaboot of the where is lovely Thursday, and there's one in Hanrive. I can't read that. School again on Saturday. Oh, I hope you find some good stuff, Pokey.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:19

Ben also like your that's flipping news. He said it was very funny.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:24

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:24

So you're getting some good feedback for it.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:26

It's just seen I've had loads of good feedback. I've had loads of good comments on it, loads of likes and hypes and all that. It's been really good. But YouTube doesn't seem to be pushing it in the way that you want to get people who actually don't watch the channel. That's what I need. I need people who are not normal viewers of the channel to pick up that video and watch it because then that is when YouTube will really make it take off.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:55

El Ravente thinks that the whatnot interface is better than eBay. You said eBay feels a little bit clunky. Because I haven't been on it as a seller.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:07

I think you need to go on it and then you can give us your.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:34

Thanks, Fluffy and Huskies and Debs and Emstem. Thank you for all the love. I wasn't feeling too bad about having the radiotherapy because it's obviously a lot simpler and less invasive than chemotherapy, but now it's actually here. I'm a little bit a little bit angsty about it, but we're gonna do it and see what happens.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:04

Well, you gotta do it, haven't you?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:07

But on a not that it wasn't a positive note, but I have been on my hormone treatment for about five weeks now. And I'm not really having any major side effects. I thought I was gonna like be slapped in the face with a menopause, like still time. There is still time because it did say it can take up to three months, but I'm five weeks in and not I'm not really having anything too bad, am I? They odd hot sweat, and I'm kind of definitely running at a few degrees hotter than usual. I haven't noticed that, but other than that, and my skin's gone dead dry and I was fat before, so that's fine. But no, nothing, nothing else. So that's good, that's positive.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:11

I think we're ready for the duck race, guys. And don't forget tonight's duck race prize is courtesy of Em's Den UK. Thank you guys. Go and sub to Em's Den, Paul and Marie, the PM of reselling, apart from when they're buying mugs at car boot sales, if you know, you know. Do you want to tell people who listen, who are maybe on the podcast, how they enter the duck race? How would somebody who does ne how would someone who's never watched the show on YouTube enter into our free duck race?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:41

Well, the first step is you're gonna have to come over to YouTube. And to be fair, you don't actually have to watch the video. But um I didn't say that. Well, it's true.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:52

No, they don't.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:52

You don't have to watch the video, but yeah, if you do want to be entered into next week's duck race, you have to come over to this video after we've finished, and in the comments section below, leave us a comment, and that will automatically put you into next week's duck race.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:07

So there you go. There you go. That's how you enter.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:10

And we will put it out there. We really appreciate all the support and help with Duck Race Prizes. But if you do wish to donate one, then just drop Chris a line. So there we go.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:23

Okie dokie.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:25

Thank you for all the love. Sandra thinks I've coped really well.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:28

You have?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:30

It was a bit in between the meltdowns.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:32

Oh, yeah. I mean, don't get me wrong, it has been hard, hasn't it? Especially those early days. It was very difficult.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:39

There's been too much going on. So much going on.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:42

And Cyril Smith enjoying the podcast. Thank you, Cyril. So much going on. Cyril Smith, isn't that a cartoon? Possibly. Wasn't that a cartoon?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:52

Oh, here we go. He's gonna have to use the.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:54

I'm gonna have to find out now.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:55

Yeah. I I honestly think if the breast cancer was the only Thing I was having to deal with. It might have been more in the forefront of my mind, but I think because I had the job situation and we had all loads of other stuff going on, I just think it's just sort of ticks along in the background, hasn't it? And then we've waited until there's been a specific moment to then have a stress like an appointment or a result, and in between you just sort of bob along.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:28

Yeah. The raccoons, that's it.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:30

The raccoons.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:31

Cyril Smith, I'm sure it was. And Cyril says used to be an MP. Very good. Right. Are we ready for the duck race?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:44

You're doing it today because I did it last time.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:46

For God's sake.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:47

I do rock, paper, scissors.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:49

Nope. Because I uh I always win.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:51

Well, what does it matter then? Nothing to lose then. How do we do it? Do that. One, two, three. Yes! I won it!

SPEAKER_02 1:07:04

Finally, a winner on rock, paper, scissors. I think we should go back and just leave it with you doing it. But you won. There you go. That's the satisfaction you can have. AMPGA says radiotherapy is tiring. I believe so.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:23

We're hoping, we're hoping that Belle don't notice too much because she's she has ME.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:30

I already have ME and fatigue, so I'm hoping that I'm already like halfway there.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:33

Yeah, yeah. That's what we're hoping for. Right, come on then, let's crack on with the duck race.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:38

Cyril's enjoying your podcast as well.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:40

I just said that. Oh, sorry. No. Where have you been for the last five minutes?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:45

Lost in space. What? Husky says, Who am I cheering on as I'm not in it? Possibly Chris, because he keeps putting himself in it.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:56

It's not my fault.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:59

Oh, life in the first line got it wrong. It's Cyril Sneer.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:03

Oh, that's it. Cyril Sneer, yeah. That's what I was thinking of, though, the raccoons. So yeah. But Cyril Smith is Cyril's actual name. Okay. Well, sorry about that, Cyril. We've been messing about. We nearly put you in the raccoons. Right, we're ready. You ready, babe?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:24

You doing it.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:25

You're lost. Yeah, you're lost, fair and square.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:28

God's sake.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:29

You have to abide by rock, paper, scissors, whatever happens.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:34

And we are off. I cannot see a single person's name because everybody has gone out of the starting line, all in one group. Right, let's see you. I can see right up at the top, dressed as a clown in Cavalis. Before that is Net Special. Then I can see I think it's Rachel Fantastic with AMP J just below them. Oh, look, Hybrid Chris is up at the front. Alongside Helen Graham, Richard Payne, and Deborah Sardine, who's obviously a little unicorn duck down there. So beautiful. Dizzy J and Dorothy Watkins have pushed their way to the front of the pack as well as long as Jeff as as well as what? So is Jess Davis, who is a naked duck. Just looking back towards the middle of the pack. Is we've got Alconax, we've got Karen Evans, Emsden, Sheriff Roscoe. Thankfully, I can see Chris going back towards the back of the pack. RJ reselling have come up to the front, and so is Cloud9 Allotman and Lizzie James. Everybody's having a peek at the front today. Phil Higginson is there, and so is Sharon Island. This could be anybody's race, we're down to the last 50 seconds. Netespresso in Cavalli has been up there from the beginning, but is it too long? Are they going to run out of steam? Cloud9 is going in the wrong direction at the minute. But Dizzy J is trying to push his way past Alknacks and squeeze between Alknacks and Bill Higginson. Angel Did Light has now come up to the front and Dirl Wanger is there too. I can see Jeff still bobbing around in the middle. Jamie Vu is coming up in a little space helmet. Oh, oh, it's all changing. It's all changing. We're down to the last 15 seconds. The pack is breaking. So we currently have Jamie D, Alknacks, Dizzy J. Nope, Dizzy J's gone. It's Jamie and Alknacks in the last five seconds. It's it's actually going to be Richard Payne. Richard Payne is going to push his way through and run.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:32

Richard Payne, well done.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:34

What is your problem?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:36

You picked it at the last second. The last second. What is your problem, dog? Richard, you know what to do? Send me a message.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:44

Turn the quacking off.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:46

Okay. Why is everyone ganging up on me in the chat, by the way? People having a ghost.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:53

But Bell did it last time.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:54

Well, it doesn't matter. Rock, paper, scissors is always the winner. Do you not know this? Is Richard in the chat today? Richard Payne?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:05

Hadn't seen him, but that doesn't mean Evans in? That doesn't mean he's not lurking somewhere in the background. Don't we already have a duck race prize in the cupboard of Ali's?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:14

It's been there for months. I'm going to eat it if you don't have it soon.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:18

We've got one for Ali sat in the cupboard because sometimes they pop by and pick it up.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:22

Oh, there you go. He's in.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:24

Right. Richard. We now potentially have two duck race prizes.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:29

Well no, because this today's is coming from Em's Den.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:31

Oh, don't matter. Forget it. You're getting this one in the post.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:35

Uh Richard, send me your address details and if it's okay with you, I'll send it on to Em's Denk. So that you they can send you the prize directly, if that's okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:47

Ali, do you want us to just send yours out? Because like I said, I'm pretty sure we've got one in the cupboard downstairs from months ago.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:53

If it was sweets, I've probably eaten them by now.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:56

No, it's in a pack, it's in a package with Ali's name written on it. So I don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:01

Anyway, there you go. All done. Duck race is done. Done and dusted.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:05

Do you know this is going to be an unusual sentence for me? Because normally when we finish the show, I just want to curl up and go to bed, which I really do want to do.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:14

But walk the dog.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:15

I think we should take her out because she's driving me nuts.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:18

Yeah, she's not been out today because it's been so hot.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:20

I think we should take her for a leg stretch and shut her up.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:24

Yeah, I agree. I agree. Right, guys. I think we are done for tonight's show.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:30

Oh, you keep theirs, but you eat mine. No, so it's not edible. That's why it's still in the cupboard. And we didn't eat yours, we gave yours to I ate them. You ate them?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:43

I'm sure I did.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:44

No, they're megs. I gave them to Willow.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:46

Oh, there you go.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:47

We gave them to the boy's uh little sister. So we didn't eat them. Somebody else did. And had we remembered, Steve, I'd replace them yesterday. But we didn't remember.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:06

He's got enough sweets. Yeah, he went he had he had a pick and mix yesterday, so I think he's got enough. Okay. Are we done? Anything else?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:16

Anything else to add? Ali says she's coming over our way. Not she said, we'll be over your way before too long, promise. Okay, no worries.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:26

I think we're done. Yeah, we're done. Should we call it a day? Are we ready for Chris's final thought from today's show? I don't know. Are we ever ready for that? Yeah. Just like Springer's final thought. This is Chris's final thought.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:39

As in Jerry? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:41

You know how on the end of the show he always sums up, he gives his sum up. Well, this is this is my sum up.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:48

Not so sure following Jeremy Springer's footsteps is the best.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:51

Jeremy Springer.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:53

Jerry Springer.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:54

Jerry Springer.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:55

Jeremy.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:55

Jeremy. It gave me Sunday names. Is it Jeremy Springer? Yeah. Jeremy Springer, guys. I'm not so sure what's the very like the best direction in life.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:06

Oh dear. That made me laugh. Jeremy Springer. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:16

Right, okay, we're ready for this.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:19

I know, I know. Well call it. And we keep changing, we change with the times. Okay. Once again, thank you everybody for watching or listening. Don't forget to hit the subscribe button if you're on here on YouTube. If you're listening on one of the audio channels, your favorite audio channel, whether it be Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon, Alexa, and all that stuff, please hit the download button because that's just like subscribing here on YouTube. And it helps us, helps get the show out there. And I would appreciate it if you hit that download button. Or you can also give us a review on one of the that would be even better. Like leave us a five-star review if indeed you think it was worth five stars.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:58

I'll say bye. Enjoy the rest of the hot week, guys. Stay safe. Have fun.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:05

Okay. Here we go. Chrissy's final thought. Remember, folks, eBay Live won't succeed because of big sellers alone. It'll succeed because thousands of small sellers are willing to give it a go, to turn up every week and build small communities from scratch. But if the fees get too heavy too quickly, those smaller sellers simply won't bother. eBay Live could genuinely live or die based on this critical decision. Let's just hope eBay do the right thing. That's it for today's episode. Don't forget to like or make a comment. I always reply to comments. And if you're on YouTube, hit the subscribe button. If you're on one of the audio channels, hit the download button. And we'll see you next time.